These chosen ones take too much pleasure in condemnation of the damned. After having been somewhat in both worlds, I believe the vast majority of Calvinists truly believe Calvinism is true, and to deny it is to deny the true gospel. “I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord. Dee….NOOOOOOO! Lowlandseer: But here is what Calvin himself says in his exposition of Ezekiel 18:23. I also ate lunch there and sat in the steam room. Our investigation is ongoing, and we continue to pursue leads. It’s the difference between being “wrong” about an issue and being on the “wrong side” of an issue. To share this article with your friends, use any of the social share buttons on our site, or simply copy the link below. A generation ago what are today called “Calvinist” would have been called “hyper Calvinist” and rejected by those who were “Calvinist.”, That makes for muddy waters for those trying to navigate theology these days. I see little difference between Sproul’s god and the gods of the Aztecs and Mayans. It is okay for people to know and believe God without ever having heard of Calvin. They were also kind of aware of his celebrity and he had a role as a minister in their lives. Samuel Conner: Perhaps better would be “fell from public favor”. Image: YouTube screenshot. ishy: I think megas are falling out of favor and I think that’s where the fastest losses are coming from. It would be interesting to know the salaries of Hunt and Law, salaries paid through the generous donations of SBC church members. So intense feelings of isolation and anger and helplessness. Key. Sorry for the length. But I noticed that many of those leaders wanted to pander to their friends, no matter how badly they were behaving. Even if you believe everything that Zacharias said about the situation, there are some real red flags and things that didn't seem right. There’s a good bit of hinky stuff going on with those, I suspect. They’re not really doing anything new here, but the focus might be newish to NAMB. ishy: All I keep wondering is if there are really any decent people left in leadership in the SBC? His passion and life’s work centered on helping people understand the beauty of the gospel message of salvation. I don’t think people in general handle repetition well unless it’s something mindless or not important. And to read their Bibles without Calvin & Calvin-parrots looking over their shoulder or whispering in their ear. elastigirl: might as well be mary kay cosmetics. Those I know that value their license would never ever compromise whereas foreign women who might not have their passports because someone high up is holding them, fear reprisals. Money and women are downfalls for Indian men. ishy: they gain confidence that they too can learn to be a six-figure megachurch pastor in an oversaturated megachurch market. And please define “regular.”, I would suggest some SBC officials commission an investigation of their own, post-haste. Jacob: Actually, the liturgy is very much focused on Christ. This is pretty much a useless standard in isolation because one could argue that even masochists are only following what they want to hear. http://thewartburgwatch.com/2019/05/03/the-secret-exorbitant-and-ridiculous-salaries-of-southern-baptist-convention-leadership-and-celebrity-pastors/, ishy: opposite side of the New Calvinists. I used to post occasionally, but honestly, the 1 shenanigans turned me off so much that I quit reading for awhile. Who slew our great Goliath, and rescued us from Pharaoh, discharged our debt, and released us from prison? Once you are labeled as being on the “wrong side” of something, that’s it. Sounds O.K. Non-Calvinist good ole boys who float to the top of the pot have certainly contributed to SBC’s decline. Our both living in the northern Atlanta suburbs has given us much to ponder as we look backward at the many places we have attended. If he is then his discernment and qualification for leadership is in question. I will say that my own preacher doesn’t always wear a tie. It was was also expensive. They’ve been groomed to be scared of lots of things. FBCW was also a big supporter of Liberty and the few students I knew at LU before going there were all from that church. “Looking at your future, Ravi Baba, you will not travel far or very much in your life,” he declared. While we look now through a glass darkly, we should be content with the measure of our own intelligence. It was a huge scandal then. This was a business off to the side and not as a direct result of traveling and speaking internationally. So it's two spas in the same location. You ‘might’ find reference to SBC in a remote corner of their website, but the members usually don’t have a clue that they are Southern Baptists. A 2-second YouTube video clip of Ravi Zacharias (2019); used in accordance with the U.S. Fair Use Act . As far as Hunt and NAMB, he worked with the New Calvinists to restructure it toward church planting back in 2008. The denominations you mention don’t describe themselves as Calvinists. It seems pop culture Hybels and a lovely-liturgy-diocese hiding evil clergy, as well as PhD-poser-apologists all share common ground. It’s just not working. But, I’ll always pray that they find the way, the truth, and the life while they still have breath. “Scientology” was only ever fundamentalism with a bit of “white heat” thrown in. And that the people who know that the solution to sin is in Christ are also the people who should be taking a sin the most seriously. After establishing the standard systematic and text proofs of limited atonement, he turned to the seated audience and said, with a big smile, “so Jesus didn’t die for everyone.” At the time, I was persuaded of the validity of the logic of TULIP, but the evident pleasure he expressed in making this statement struck me as dismaying. Even the 4-point Calvinists teach unconditional election. Insincere, can’t look at the congregation, just oily. And I kept thinking about those people. | RZIM A memorial service honoring the life of Christian apologist Ravi Zacharias will be livestreamed on Facebook and YouTube on Friday with tributes from Passion Movement founder Louie Giglio, Lecrae, Tim Tebow and Vice President Mike Pence. December 25, 2020 3:03 PM ET. Or are you a “foreigner” in church? Ravi wasn’t even a good student in India from what I have heard. So that’s India (Hunt) and Thailand (Sharma. Max: Under Kevin Ezell’s leadership, the church planting program at NAMB has been more about planting reformed theology, than Gospel churches. They have helped to change some of these stories. Does the renaissance offer power & influence to promoters? The whole family seems to be scammers yet the SB stands behind them. “These men have set up and honored their idols in their hearts and have put right before their faces the vile stumbling block of their wickedness and guilt” (Ezekiel 14:3). Ravi Zacharias was a popular Christian evangelist who founded the Ravi Zacharias International Ministries in Atlanta. What is “Good” to God? Later they would claim IMB had a huge deficit and fire a huge percentage of their missionaries, but magically, that deficit shows up at NAMB the next year. Suffice it to say there are many who reject Arminianism, who reject hyper Calvinism, reject dispensationalism, are no form of Catholic, and are not Lutheran who are nevertheless Protestants. That goes for me, too. Michael in UK: he is being ontologically transubstantiated to the right hand of on high. One with credentials, there was an issue where titles claimed and advertised, specifically doctorates and teaching positions, were misstated or overstated. i observe my fellow evangelicals to be very naive & gullible. Max: Sproul struck me as kind of smug in the DVD series of his that I saw. Ravi’s heart was people. And so we leave 2020 where we started – blaming Calvin for all the woes in the SBC and in the world, when in fact, the truth of the matter is that we are raging against God and what He clearly teaches in His word. And that's where I hope evangelism goes next. yet, the very nature of reality.. like the basic properties of electrons!, is a conundrum.. there are many more examples in the physical world like this…. And there can be only ONE One True Calvinism. The Bible is handled reverently, it isn’t thumped or waved around like it is a weapon. Nathan Priddis: I was looking over the PPP data and saw what passes as our local mega-church. Even communion in a contemporary service breaks up the routine. The lack of interest on so many fronts to police and expose the repeat offenders cuz liability, hard work, and dearth of prioritization is of course aided by congregational propensities to cede oversight power to “elders“ and pastors with “vision”. It all seemed very odd at the time. IMHO, best to read the kid, read the situation (the community, what’s available), look at finances & home life, then make the decision that best fits the kid for THEIR best outcome, their best future. Well, now I have to reevaluate my theory because you actually DO seem to understand Calvinism. Prayer Requests Calvin was a frail man who suffered from a number of ailments – from gout, kidney stones, tuberculosis, and intestinal parasites, frequent gastro-intestinal bleeding. Highly recommend all of her work and interviews. If I had to boil it down to my most basic complaint about Calvinism and Calvinists it would be their insistence (and often glee) that God is pleased and glorified to eternally punish the majority of humanity with unendurable torture when he could save everyone. That we take seriously that sin is destructive, that sin really ruins the lives of all sorts of people. And build a bigger dragon hoard than Ken Copeland. And I don't know how to undo the things that we as Christians have built and have supported. I don't know what to make of that, but that seems unique to the situation. “There is confusion about what the doctrine of limited atonement actually teaches. And they alleged that Zacharias would come in regularly for treatments on his back and in the process of that sexually harassed them. A former member told me she believed they even intentionally adopted strategies from Scientology now, because of the power those strategies allow them to hold over members. It’s also getting harder to believe that hard working Christian folk still bankroll these guys. In the case of Calvinist churches, the good news is some (and only some) have been chosen to be saved from eternity past, and there is nothing they can do to change it, while everyone else has been chosen for eternal conscious torment, and there is nothing they can do to escape it. There are very few people there whose first language is not English. So the sermons through the year have to be about a lot of topics, not just whatever are the top three or four issues the pastor likes to talk about. A look inside CT’s reporting and what it means for Christian witness and evangelism. I once made a report about a spa. ishy: And they care way more about winning some argument than if their neighbor is dying. They DELIBERATELY copied Elron Hubbard? Dint he used to make jeans and after-shave? ishy: I think megas are falling out of favor. Besides, it is not surprising that our eyes should be blinded by intense light, so that we cannot certainly judge how God wishes all to be saved, and yet has devoted all the reprobate to eternal destruction, and wishes them to perish. I spoke to three women who worked at these places. These styles are a matter of personal preference. By that point, NAMB had already been “revitalized”, as that started in 2001. Check out some of the comments on the video to get a taste of what Baughman has put up with. But there are two categories of reformed knuckleheads who continue to disrupt the Church of the Living God: rabid Hyper-Calvinists and rebel New Calvinists. https://julieroys.com/macarthurs-church-dozen-congregants-covid/, Steven Baughman: how seriously to take the trafficking issue. It often results in intense feelings of shame, more intense feelings of shame, guilt, and sometimes long periods of spiritual confusion. Jacob: The Bible is handled reverently, it isn’t thumped or waved around like it is a weapon. Johnny Hunt reportedly was mentored by Paige Patterson while he attended Southeastern Seminary. When we boil each theology down to a one sentence form, which makes more sense? “One Night in Bang Cock…”. By that point, NAMB had already been “revitalized”, as that started in 2001. This way of thinking seems to be the foundation for healthy churches in the 9Marx way. Were there ever any? Or did I misunderstand? — Henry Sanders or Vince Lombardi, Football Coaches, “The Winner is never asked if he has won fairly, only whether He Has WON.” They did later fine the spa as a business. In August 2018, Johnny, alongside his wife Janet, announced to FBC-Woodstock that he would be transitioning out of his full-time pastoral position to fulfill a Senior VP ministry for the North American Mission Board. I think there’s certain personality disorders that definitely get marked as “leaders” in evangelicalism. Flockhart turned out to be a huge phony. Their loan was processed from another region of the US. If any one again objects—this is making God act with duplicity, the answer is ready, that God always wishes the same thing, though by different ways, and in a manner inscrutable to us. This is one of the big problems with EO in the US. Wesleyan Arminianism: Jesus will save anyone who comes to Him, but if you blow it and are redamned you can repent and be restored. I happen to know that Steve Baughman has been the recipient of much abuse from “Christians” for publishing the results of his careful investigations. Mr. Jesperson: How dotted the map of your journeyings, how many-colored the stones that have paved your path, how varied and blended the hues that compose the picture of your life! I will be writing about it soon. Specifically that he touched them inappropriately against their wishes, that he exposed himself to them in these private rooms were where people would get treatment, and then ultimately masturbated. Has He not amply proved it? above-the-law spiritual hubris, the for-our-times interpretation of idolatry, is evil in any brand: traditional or pop-contemporary. There are also those who call themselves “moderate Calvinists” who believe in corporate predestination, not individual. linda: While that is the message of the majority of Calvinists, it is not the message of all Calvinists. Everything has to be gospel-soaked/saturated/infused/centered/etc. Reformed icon R.C. It was not just he said/she said. Anyone who’s been on a worship choir or team knows that church leaders think about how to control the emotions of members. The abusive churches we highlight here point you to the celebrity in the spotlight who tells you not how to think but what to think. But these were really just annoyances compared with the actual abuse some people have been subjected to. I would trust Sharma’s statement for accuracy more than Hunt since he was a co-owner. A simple view of places to get a massage for back pain, etc in the Woodstock area numbers in excess of 10 locations. or herbalife, amway, etc. Tina: I’ve driven past First Baptist Woodstock and that place looks HUGE! Max: So was Paige Patterson (who fell from grace) … so was Frank Page (who fell from grace). On a couple of occasions I’ve driven past First Baptist Woodstock and that place looks HUGE! He was succeeded by Bryant Wright. I know it’s SBC but it does not announce that info publicly in any way. My dad told me to never trust a preacher who faked & baked, didn’t wear a tie, and/or wore gold choker chains. In an especial manner, and in the highest degree, He is the God of His people. What do all of these abuse allegations mean for evangelism? Under Ezell, it focuses on setting up new ministers. Not long ago I was very seriously thinking about becoming Eastern Orthodox. Another woman told me that she hasn't been to church in over a decade since this happened and that she can't trust religious institutions. And I think more importantly for the victims, I think to hear that they're not alone. I don’t have much respect for a guy that never did anything to reach Indians for Christ. Ken F (aka Tweed): In the case of Calvinist churches, the good news is some (and only some) have been chosen to be saved from eternity past, and there is nothing they can do to change it, while everyone else has been chosen for eternal conscious torment, and there is nothing they can do to escape it. Guess he’s still “looking.” http://stopbaptistpredators.blogspot.com/2009/02/looking-into-that.html. The investigation began after multiple women came forward in August 2020, alleging that Zacharias … Zacharias owned two day spas, where people would go to get massages, facials, or pedicures, in a strip mall in Johns Creek, Georgia, which is a pretty rich northeast suburb of Atlanta. As I’ve said before, LS, I don’t really have a problem with classical Calvinists. “You will know them by their love” just doesn’t apply to them. I asked a friend who runs a ministry in India to look over this article and give me their feedback. I was so sick of traffic in Johns Creek (and my dad kept driving straight over all the roundabouts they keep putting in). He was having back pain and Ravi was providing excellent masseuses. No, homeschool your kids to protect them from the evil public school world. His love is for us—His perfections are for us—His covenant is for us—His government, extending over all the world, and His power over all flesh, is for us. The research that I've seen shows that more than 90% of victims of any sexual harassment experienced post-traumatic stress disorder. Can you tell us a little bit about that space—how it's been characterized, how influential it has been, and the ways Ravi fit into it? Like, it might be true, but it sounds a little exaggerated and there's not a lot of evidence. I mean, I certainly hadn't heard this before and I don't think these were public knowledge, but RZIM has denied the statements that the women but they admitted that he owns the businesses. Max: Reformed icon R.C. “Just like an Intellectual Snob, Except CHRISTIAN(TM)!”. So I just moved really quickly to establish a couple of facts. And I think also the knowledge that “all have sinned” is not like an excuse. There is nothing in God, nothing in His dealings, nothing in His providences, but what is on the side of His people. But since captious men torture this and similar passages, it will be needful to refute them shortly, since it can be done without trouble.”. $24.50. I had already told her where I had gone that day, and she asked if I got a massage. Daniel Sillman: Ravi Zacharias died earlier this year, but he was a Christian apologist—one of the most notable Christian apologists. Flockhart went into a Hunt “rehab” after all that and has now re-emerged in Georgia heading up a church of roughly 800. People run in panic from anything that remotely looks Catholic, but they will put up with gimmicky shows you see in mega churches. Notice all the SBC luminaries? Gospel-centered coffee, gospel-centered donuts, gospel-centered hairdos, etc. Very much parallels how Calvinistas are described here at TWW. Unique in our times, she says, is how the peoples’ will (such as when a church board voluntarily hires a pastor) will then turn against those very same people via the latently forceful authoritarian self-absorbed leader. Ouch! It is so very different from my protestant upbringing. Hunt won’t actually do much; they just wanted his mug shot on the staff page. ishy: I am a little surprised that Hunt was offered a position at NAMB, even with the merger of his ministry into it. Oh most definitely, both because of living around there and because I went to Liberty. Also. Audio Book (CD) $32.50. http://thewartburgwatch.com/about-tww/about-us-our-faq/. I spent quite a few months checking out the only English speaking EO church in my area, which is Syrian Orthodox. And yet, God constructed that map, God laid those stones, God pencilled and painted that picture. ++++++++++++++++. I have been on the receiving end of Weaponized Scripture. NAMB President, Kevin Ezell may have hired Johnny Hunt to what is undoubtedly a financially lucrative job as part of a quid pro quo transaction wherein Hunt gave the Timothy+Barnabas Ministry to NAMB. Note the hinted more serious matters could well be misappropriation of funds or some other economic malfeasance. A good analogy. Ravi Zacharias as a Doctor, is certainly qualified to judge the ability of a masseuse. ++++++++++++++++++++. When we shall be like God, and see him face to face, then what is now obscure will then become plain. And yet Jesus warned us about how we, in these end times, would pursue teachers who would tell us what we only want to hear and would therefore be deceived by men. It all depends on how generous God is. Ken F (aka Tweed): The dilemma here is no one really understands Calvinism because for every interpretation of Calvinism there is at least one group of self-identified Calvinists who will reject it as a misunderstanding of real Calvinism. A tribute that you can maintain your sanity while publishing information that keeps readers apprised…. I live in a “happy inconsistency” that I can do experiments that show electrons are particles, and then do an experiment that shows electrons have “wave like” properties ( it is actually more accurate to say they have properties that are best described as a probability distribution … not a single particle) … PS it is not very hard to go in the lab and do this…, Herein lies the true arrogance of many of theses theologians, or pseudo theologian…. Now, as if in a blink of an eye, he has passed away. “If this teaching or movement is merely human it will collapse” (Acts 5:39). No, send your kids into the public system as ambassadors for Christ. Did Sproul ever look very happy to you? He damned no one. In June 1996, Hunt was named the President of SBC Pastor’s Conference. Full report from outside investigation to be released in January. Flockhart and his wife threatened the church I think. But I suppose it is possible that there are groups who reject the core teachings of Calvin while still calling themselves Calvinists. Caner is back in higher level education. But other than that…. Yes, childish… This blog is public and exists to benefit others, not to give opportunity to solely exercise one’s ego. Survey the record of your own history, dear reader. Just asking. Evangelical Universalism: Jesus saves everyone, but not until they repent and believe. Originally from India, born in India in 1946, moved to Canada when he was about 20 and has been in the US since the ’70s. Mimetics = memetics. Put your kids in your denominational $chool. And a lot you probably have, too. The young reformers attach cool names to their “ministries” with no acknowledgment of SBC affiliation. Which is somewhat similar to what happened last time. Could anything be more wrong? (like the rest of us don’t have any). “Winning isn’t Everything — Winning is THE ONLY THING!” All your other information is spot on. Yeah, I’ve had people throw proof texts at me and tell me I don’t know the Bible. In February 2009, Hunt wrote back saying “I assure you we are looking into that.” Then… nothing. You really see it with the rise of mass media, which C.S. And I think it’s the reason many contemporary churches avoid regular communion or prayer services, because those services break the routine. Put some effort in. This post appears to be a serious, informative, and very disturbing post, and all you have to offer is a “1”??? There was already an evangelism dept in NAMB. I should also say that the women who told me that these things happened to them were all very clear that they're not expecting anything from the ministry and they're not asking for anything. Governments are good at telling us what they plan to do about the problem of human trafficking and the annual TiP report is a long read. Pride is the deadliest of sins. Ava Aaronson: It seems pop culture Hybels and a lovely-liturgy-diocese hiding evil clergy, as well as PhD-poser-apologists all share common ground. Looking at the statistics over the years, one is struck by how little things change. Anonymous Baptist: owning massage parlors. Follow our hosts on Twitter: Morgan Leeand Ted Olsen, Why we report bad news about leaders: A note from the editors on the Ravi Zacharias investigation, Follow our guest on Twitter: Daniel Silliman, Quick to Listen is produced by Morgan Leeand Matt Linder. I will try to move forward….but this kind of news is so depressing yet for your readers over the last decade, it is not unexpected that the same group keep making an appearance, especially among the SBC. He did not have the same kind of personality and he seemed to care about individuals in ways that his son and Patterson did not. Nathan Priddis: I know it’s SBC but it does not announce that info publicly in any way … The name on the church suggest a neo-calvinist ideological view. We are not justified because we did good work, and we're not justified because we had the right opinions or we knew what the truth was, we're justified by the work of Christ dying on the cross. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. He wasn't just a Christian CEO. I wonder if we need different language to described these highly visible flameouts. Lowlandseer: Let’s hope that 2021 will be different. “Gold choker chains” with or without the coke-spoon pendant amid the dyed chest hair? I find that most protestants know almost nothing about EO. One female employee stated, “I had a close relationship with Ravi. Do what is best for your own children. While I wish them goodwill at the end of this year, I certainly don’t wish them success with their agendas for the new year. Why were you frequenting the establishment? I know of many women he molested.” Baughman asked Sharma “What was it like to see Ravi preach against sexual immorality while he was being immoral with the therapists?” Sharma responded, “That is probably the reason I killed Jivan.”. The best liturgical church I visited did a different culture’s style liturgical service every week, which I thought rather creative. I did find the setting a bit crowded all in one room, but naively, I thought that they had to be licensed. I have opinions of Hunt but much is speculative. A few years ago I got the Orthodox Study Bible and eagerly read it. I had never heard of Johnny Hunt prior to viewing Steve Baughman’s video. This gives the industry a black eye when there are those that care about their profession. Also, their HUGE overhead costs make them very vulnerable. Additionally, course work at Atlanta School of Massage has multiple courses that focus on ethics. I always think it’s funny when, particularly the evangelicals, claim something is “biblical” like it’s some grand absolute, and even the people in their own church don’t agree with them on that topic. Caner had a sordid and questionable past and the details were well documented but Hunt, as with many others, ignored this and supported Caner even though he was a “fake”. It’s getting harder to keep track of all the luminaries in the CIC (christian industrial complex). He was in the dark cloud that enshrouded all with gloom, and He was in the sunshine that gilded all with beauty. “We hold, then, that God wills not the death of a sinner, since he calls all equally to repentance, and promises himself prepared to receive them if they only seriously repent. Open Discussion Page, © 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 - The Wartburg Watch. they “put down” others that do not agree with them, quite often as the “others” are intellectually inferior…. A trail, a pattern, a predator, a legion of witnesses (victims). And so of the Holy Spirit. But do you hear the Spirit? “DECEMBER 30. Lewis is a pretty prominent, famous example. Ken F (aka Tweed): This is an interesting observation because I have never found a group that identifies itself as Calvinist while at the same time rejecting unconditional election. He was there with his wife. With so many disreputable “massage therapists”, it is no wonder that massage therapists continue to fight the stigma….. Dear Daughter of Stan Emeritus And do I trust the goodness of my heart so much that I'm not going to find ways to check myself?”. The Wartburg Watch published an article on September 9, 2020, titled Ravi Zacharias – Working the Kinks Out While Earning Extra Cash for Spreading the Gospel!” This article included a video published by “The Friendly Banjo Atheist” on September 8, 2020. Ravi at Princeton Part 3. podcast. Under Ezell, it focuses on setting up new ministers. So was Paige Patterson (who fell from grace) … so was Frank Page (who fell from grace). It as to mean something about not trusting celebrity and not trusting power and taking the accounts of people who aren't very powerful seriously. ishy: Hunt is very much on the opposite side of the New Calvinists. Daniel Sillman: So apologetics is mostly historically an academic discipline. The document referred to is no longer on the Southwestern Seminary website, but can be viewed here. http://fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com/2013/10/ergun-caner-platform-guest-at-richard.html?m=1, I should point out that both spas were at the same location but existed at different times, 10990 State Bridge Rd UNIT [or Suite] E, Alpharetta [or Johns Creek], GA 30022 He worked out a deal where a cooperating church could get their donations to a specific church plant under the NAMB umbrella count as a NAMB donation. If any one again objects—this is making God act with duplicity, the answer is ready, that God always wishes the same thing, though by different ways, and in a manner inscrutable to us. And these women spoke up just for that reason. Dispensationalism: Jesus will save anyone who comes to Him, cannot lose salvation. 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